I've watched 5 of Rattlers games, here's what I think. (1 Viewer)

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St. Geezy said:
It’s truly bizarre that it seems some people have already determined that they will be rooting against him in order to prove the hype wrong and to be able to say “I told you so.”
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I'm still baffled that so many people seem to have hitched their wagon to a guy who got caught using PEDs. As a rookie. With no discernible reason to use them.
 
ELLIASJWILLIAMS said:
He's a steal. He's got negatives, no doubt, but the situation, injuries, scheme, play-calling, and lack of talent absolutely tanked his ability to display top 50 talent.

The negatives
- Drifts backwards in the pocket
- can be late on throws/Needs a #1 WR
- decision making
- throw location can be spotty
- Goal line arm??
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The negatives in blue worry me a bit, but the rest can be cleaned up. Some decision-making issues can be covered up by scheme, but he has to possess at least decent and consistent judgment. At this level, QBs have to be able to lay passes on the hands to keep the receivers from getting killed. If Rattler can answer those questions positively, I'll join the Rat Pack.
 
St. Geezy said:
That’s fine and all but as far as I can tell, this isn’t a discussion about Haener, so I don’t believe I see your point.
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Wow , my point is that is exactly the same thing scouts were saying about Haener before the draft. Chill
 
DSnfla said:
Wow , my point is that is exactly the same thing scouts were saying about Haener before the draft. Chill
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Just didn’t seem to matter to my discussion point, like at all. So now we are just going to pretend that there is no “Haener is better than Rattler” adversarial vibe to your posts the past couple of days? 😂
 
St. Geezy said:
I'm curious...what is your reason for asking this? It's a bit, um, "odd."

Also, care to respond in the other thread about why you feel like Rattler doesn't "Have it between the ears" even though the general consensus from scouts and publications is that he has a high football I.Q. (and also had a 3.8 gpa)?

Really wondering on why you're so hellbent on attacking Rattler and infusing this Haener defense into these discussions.

saintsreport.com

Schefter: Falcons and Broncos liked Rattler most before picking QBs early. Teams expected him to go mid-2nd-early 3rd

Not to jinx, but watching some of his highlights, he reminds me of Brees to an extentI wish Drew would work with him and show him the way
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1st I'm curious to see if EJW had done an in-depth on Haener because his is one of the opinions I value. 2nd the knock on Rattler is he makes bad decisions and trusts his arm too much and has had a history of being immature. There's usually a reason a guy with that arm talent falls in the draft. Why are you so hellbent on making it a Haener vs Rattler . I'm not
 
Jesse Custer said:
I'm still baffled that so many people seem to have hitched their wagon to a guy who got caught using PEDs. As a rookie. With no discernible reason to use them.
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Not to mention there’s been no evidence at all that it’s even semi likely for him to turn into a legitimate starter in the league. Keep drafting them till we strike gold haha
 
duckjr78 said:
Crazy, but honest question: other than Archie Manning, who is the best QB the Saints have ever drafted?
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Older fans will remember Dave Wilson was a product of the old supplemental draft, which isn’t done anymore. He was fairly big guy out of Illinois, about 6-3, and had a strong arm. He once held the NCAA record for most passing yards in a game.

Drafted during Bum’s first season in 1981, he was never properly coached-up and never truly given the keys to the offense. Split time with Archie in ‘81, then broke his leg in the preseason the following year. Then Bum brought in Stabler and Wilson played only when Stabler couldn’t go due to injury. Then came Todd, and then Hebert. His best moment came in the second half of a road win over the Bengals during the breakthrough season of 1987. Led what I think was the biggest comeback win in team history up to then.

Every other starter — both the good and the bad — since those days came via trades or free agency.
 
St.Dan said:
Older fans will remember Dave Wilson was a product of the old supplemental draft, which isn’t done anymore. He was fairly big guy out of Illinois, about 6-3, and had a strong arm. He once held the NCAA record for most passing yards in a game.

Drafted during Bum’s first season in 1981, he was never properly coached-up and never truly given the keys to the offense. Split time with Archie in ‘81, then broke his leg in the preseason the following year. Then Bum brought in Stabler and Wilson played only when Stabler couldn’t go due to injury. Then came Todd, and then Hebert. His best moment came in the second half of a road win over the Bengals during the breakthrough season of 1987. Led what I think was the biggest comeback win in team history up to then.

Every other starter — both the good and the bad — since those days came via trades or free agency.
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FYI - the NFL Supplemental Draft does still exist; there just haven’t been many eligible players enter as of late.

There was a long gap from 2019-2022 where none were eligible. Then last year there were two players eligible and neither got picked.
 
This is a good video. He covers the SC vs Florida game and he throws his hands up on more than one occasion with how the scheme doesn't do Spencer ANY favors and how it forces him to play superhero ball more often than he needs to. You could see and hear the pain he felt as he watched Spencer have to navigate Florida with 8 man protections and 3 routes vs 7 men in coverage, time after time after time. He called it bad football on several occasions.




Bonus Vid/Interview.

The same guy (Kurt Benkert) who did the above video is pretty relevant. During the below interview he was quoted as saying "Spencer's skillset will fit better in the pro's than it did in college" and he was then asked by the interviewer, what question should she ask him. Low and behold he had im ask about the 3 man routes and the 7 man protections.

He gave a masterful answer, didn't throw his team under the bus. Took the time to point out the success they had vs highlight the negatives. Very good answer.

7:45 if you want to FF to the above part of the discussion.

 
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