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antipop · 11-07-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mikaloyd

I have no idea where you read that at.

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The good news is the 27 year old thief got into a horrific wreck with it a few days ago. Half tore his leg off. The leg is gone forever and survival is no sure bet. Which is nice.

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mikaloyd · 11-07-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by antipop

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Yep. The value of the bike has nothing to do with it. No equality there.

KardiacKat · 11-07-2009, 11:32 PM

According to the California Penal Code, the penalty for Grand Theft Auto is 16 months to 4 years, and up to $10,000 in fines. Not death. I agree that it is ironic that a motorcycle thief might kill himself with the stolen bike, but that doesn't make it something to be happy about. Happy would be he went to jail and your friend got his bike back unharmed.

Deuceistheman · 11-07-2009, 11:36 PM

Well I suppose he could have got caught by the owner and got shot dead. Would that have been bad? I don't think so!

I am sick and tired of people saying; "Oh, he made a mistake".

BS, a mistake is made when you don't know the answer to something, or understand something. A wrong, or criminal act, is when you know what is right and what is wrong and you commit an act that is wrong, or criminal anyway, even though you know it is wrong to do.

People like to say they made a mistake, when they get caught and with no other out. If they don't get caught, they continue to do wrong. A perfect example is Michael Vick. He would have kept doing wrong, IF he wouldn't have been caught. What he did was not a mistake. Just like this motorcycle thief. I am sure it wasn't his first rodeo. Get it?

southland22 · 11-07-2009, 11:49 PM

hey if our system worked like this we would have no repeat offenders.

The Mongoose · 11-08-2009, 12:01 AM

that's pretty cold, bruh. Not a good way to go through life.

Comus · 11-08-2009, 12:02 AM

I'm cool with it if adulterers get genital emasculation.

LafourcheSaint · 11-08-2009, 12:06 AM

I like ironic justice, and would not shed a tear for the thief.

But I admit, though, that I would never make it as a defense attorney...which is probably a good thing I guess.

antipop · 11-08-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuceistheman

A perfect example is Michael Vick. He would have kept doing wrong, IF he wouldn't have been caught. What he did was not a mistake. Just like this motorcycle thief. I am sure it wasn't his first rodeo. Get it?

die vick

VVextreme · 11-08-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KardiacKat

You should die for stealing a motorcycle? Dang. I'm sorry about your friend getting robbed because that sucks, but wow. You really want the guy to die?

He did it to himself. I see no reason for the poster to feel sympathy or sorrow in this situation. It's not like the poster is out there actively trying to kill the guy. But if he happens to die as a result of his stupidity? So be it. Got to love when Darwin's law weeds out scumbags like this.

mikaloyd · 11-08-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KardiacKat

According to the California Penal Code, the penalty for Grand Theft Auto is 16 months to 4 years, and up to $10,000 in fines. Not death. I agree that it is ironic that a motorcycle thief might kill himself with the stolen bike, but that doesn't make it something to be happy about. Happy would be he went to jail and your friend got his bike back unharmed.

That was not an option the thief left.

Since a wry satisfaction is "very very sick" could you please tell me what in your strict judgement is a "very very mentally healthy" emotion to feel or at least fake in this instance?

Taceo · 11-08-2009, 09:41 AM

I love threads like this. It reaffirms my beliefs from experience in other threads that some people are just so incomprehensibly stupid that if I ever find them on my side I need to reexamine my positions with a little more scrutiny (because even a blind squirrel will find a nut every now and again). With such an immediate desire for blood lust and the rampant mob mentality, its easy to see why the usual suspects are so easily manipulated by certain puppeteers.

offshorepoorman · 11-08-2009, 09:58 AM

Look at it like this. If someone kidnapped your spouse and raped and murdered them how would you feel. I know exactly where this guy is coming from. The only that I love more than my kids and family is my bike. i have worked hard and missed may family events to get it. I have lots a few good women over my bike. If someone would steal it I would hope that the same or worse would happen to them. There is no one in the world that I hate more than a theif. If you need help as me. I am a very giveing person for soemone that needs help but wants to help themselves. Like I said earlier my bike is like one of the family. I totally agree with the OP when it comes to this guy that stole the bike.

bizhubman · 11-08-2009, 10:02 AM

I will not go as far as saying I hope he dies or that he deserves to die.

But how was it a "mistake" to steal another man's motorcycle, drive it at high speed and almost kill another innocent human? Did he really want to steal the guy's car but mistakenly take the bike? Did he intend to drive the speed limit and safely but mistakenly drove too fast and dangerously? Did he intend to walk a little old lady across the street but mistakenly drove a stolen motorcycle into her car door and almost kill her?

Does he have a history of this sort of behavior? If so, then I would lean towards not feeling bad if he lost his life. If he was layed off and needed money to feed his kids, then I would have some understanding and some compassion. But we really need to stop with the "he made a little mistake" routine.

Deuceistheman · 11-08-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Taceo

With such an immediate desire for blood lust and the rampant mob mentality, its easy to see why the usual suspects are so easily manipulated by certain puppeteers.

No mob mentality on my part. Just walk on my property and try to steal something. The only mob you will see is the MOB of one, me, popping a cap or two on your happy.....
Once you have left my property, I wouldn't chase you down and shoot you. That would create more legal problems for me, than I would want to be involved with.

Look, the guy committed a criminal act and got hurt while using the item he stole. Stuff happens. I feel sorry for the innocent person that had their vehicle/property damaged in the wreck buy a criminal. Now his insurance will have to pay. And you worry about a nut job that got hurt, doing something he shouldn't have been doing anyway? The really bad thing about this, is now this jackoff will need medical care the rest of his life if he survives and who do you think is going to have to pay for it? Care to guess?

I know what you mean about the puppeteers. Sheesh, they have a bunch of them now teaching in colleges, good grief.

Stupidity can get in the way of common sense.

dirdyhearn · 11-08-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuceistheman

No mob mentality on my part. Just walk on my property and try to steal something. The only mob you will see is the MOB of one, me, popping a cap or two on your happy.....
Once you have left my property, I wouldn't chase you down and shoot you. That would create more legal problems for me, than I would want to be involved with.

Look, the guy committed a criminal act and got hurt while using the item he stole. Stuff happens. I feel sorry for the innocent person that had their vehicle/property damaged in the wreck buy a criminal. Now his insurance will have to pay. And you worry about a nut job that got hurt, doing something he shouldn't have been doing anyway? The really bad thing about this, is now this jackoff will need medical care the rest of his life if he survives and who do you think is going to have to pay for it? Care to guess?

I know what you mean about the puppeteers. Sheesh, they have a bunch of them now teaching in colleges, good grief.

Stupidity can get in the way of common sense.

:toughguy:

:learningisbadguy:

Deuceistheman · 11-08-2009, 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=bizhubman;2421211]I will not go as far as saying I hope he dies or that he deserves to die.

If he was layed off and needed money to feed his kids, then I would have some understanding and some compassion. But we really need to stop with the "he made a little mistake" routine.[/QUOTE

I cannot agree with this sort of mindset. Just because someone looses his job, does not automatically give someone the right to take from another person. Are you wanting to create riots and incivility?

There are ways people can go about getting help if they are laid off. Have you ever heard of family and friends? Have you ever heard of unemployment? I don't think by stealing a motorcycle would help his cause. Suppose the guy that had the motorcycle stolen from him, decides to get even by stealing a motorcycle from someone else to get back what he lost? Where does it end, if people can just take what they want, when they want, because of their own perception of what they perceive as just? Come on.

Deuceistheman · 11-08-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dirdyhearn

:toughguy:

:learningisbadguy:

That's funny and I like your style. Thanks.

Remember, I have every right to shoot you if you walk on my property and take something. Or I could just club you to death. Which one do you prefer?

llama · 11-08-2009, 10:32 AM

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Stupidity can get in the way of common sense.

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FLASH · 11-08-2009, 10:35 AM

Let me state that I do not wish death on anyone. However, that theif should know that there could be consequences for his actions and he should be willing to accept them. So if he is lying on his death bed right now, he should be accepting to lying in that bed that he made. Whether it be alive and legless or dead. I want to repeat, I DO NOT wish death on anyone.

FLIPPY · 11-08-2009, 10:36 AM

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A motorcycle does not equal somebody's leg or possibly life, even if they stole it. Maybe he was desperate and made a mistake. Now he has one leg and could die and you're perfectly happy about it. That's just sad on mutiple levels. I'm sure you've never made any mistakes before. Everybody knows only bad people steal things right?

Future defense lawyer in the works.....

What ever happened to accountability in this country....?

bizhubman · 11-08-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuceistheman

I cannot agree with this sort of mindset. Just because someone looses his job, does not automatically give someone the right to take from another person. Are you wanting to create riots and incivility?

There are ways people can go about getting help if they are laid off. Have you ever heard of family and friends? Have you ever heard of unemployment? I don't think by stealing a motorcycle would help his cause. Suppose the guy that had the motorcycle stolen from him, decides to get even by stealing a motorcycle from someone else to get back what he lost? Where does it end, if people can just take what they want, when they want, because of their own perception of what they perceive as just? Come on.

I agree with you. I said some understanding and some compassion. However, I probably should have said a tiny little bit instead of some.

Taceo · 11-08-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by deuceistheman

no mob mentality on my part. Just walk on my property and try to steal something. The only mob you will see is the mob of one, me, popping a cap or two on your happy.....
Once you have left my property, i wouldn't chase you down and shoot you. That would create more legal problems for me, than i would want to be involved with.

Look, the guy committed a criminal act and got hurt while using the item he stole. Stuff happens. I feel sorry for the innocent person that had their vehicle/property damaged in the wreck buy a criminal. Now his insurance will have to pay. And you worry about a nut job that got hurt, doing something he shouldn't have been doing anyway? The really bad thing about this, is now this jackoff will need medical care the rest of his life if he survives and who do you think is going to have to pay for it? Care to guess?

I know what you mean about the puppeteers. Sheesh, they have a bunch of them now teaching in colleges, good grief.

Stupidity can get in the way of common sense.

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry!!

saintmdterps · 11-08-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mikaloyd

My friend had his motorcycle stolen last weekend. Triumph Daytona 675.

Thats the bad news.

The good news is the 27 year old thief got into a horrific wreck with it a few days ago. Half tore his leg off. The leg is gone forever and survival is no sure bet. Which is nice.

Would have been a lot "nicer" if the stolen motorcycle had been recovered and returned to your friend and the thief adjudicated to the court system.

Wishing ill on another and glorying in that person's misery does nothing but tear the wisher down. Usually the target of his/her anger has no idea the anger exists.

saintmdterps · 11-08-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuceistheman

No mob mentality on my part. Just walk on my property and try to steal something. The only mob you will see is the MOB of one, me, popping a cap or two on your happy.....
Once you have left my property, I wouldn't chase you down and shoot you. That would create more legal problems for me, than I would want to be involved with.

Look, the guy committed a criminal act and got hurt while using the item he stole. Stuff happens. I feel sorry for the innocent person that had their vehicle/property damaged in the wreck buy a criminal. Now his insurance will have to pay. And you worry about a nut job that got hurt, doing something he shouldn't have been doing anyway? The really bad thing about this, is now this jackoff will need medical care the rest of his life if he survives and who do you think is going to have to pay for it? Care to guess?

I know what you mean about the puppeteers. Sheesh, they have a bunch of them now teaching in colleges, good grief.

Stupidity can get in the way of common sense.

Not sure about where you live, but shoot someone for simple trespass/burglary here and it may be YOU who faces jail time. The only reason to take a life is if you or your family is threatened. I have a Remington 1100 and S&W .38. I pray I never have to use either.

bizhubman · 11-08-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by saintmdterps

Not sure about where you live, but shoot someone for simple trespass/burglary here and it may be YOU who faces jail time. The only reason to take a life is if you or your family is threatened. I have a Remington 1100 and S&W .38. I pray I never have to use either.

Just remember these words... It looked like he was pointing a gun at me.

SaintsBrazil · 11-08-2009, 11:43 AM

Sometimes when we are wronged our desire for justice or even vengeance can lead us down a road we ought not go. Be careful.

KardiacKat · 11-08-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus

I'm cool with it if adulterers get genital emasculation.

Half the world would have been altered by now.

As to the original topic, I'll try to be more clear on my views. You don't have to feel sorry for this thief. Of course not. He brought it on himself. But to feel happy about his pain is something different. To equate the value of a bike against life and limb is extreme.

zatsnzapps · 11-08-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by offshorepoorman

Look at it like this. If someone kidnapped your spouse and raped and murdered them how would you feel...Like I said earlier my bike is like one of the family. I totally agree with the OP when it comes to this guy that stole the bike.

Rape and murder of a spouse equates to stealing a bike. You must have one intimate relationship with your bike.

antipop · 11-08-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by offshorepoorman

Look at it like this. If someone kidnapped your spouse and raped and murdered them how would you feel.

material items can be replaced.....people can't

"You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your ****ing khakis."